The Yamaha Tenere thread
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Mmmm hands up any KTM that has done over 100k miles with zero engine, elec or mechanical parts failures, other than wear and tear like wheel bearings, discs/pads etc. From what I've read they really don't hold up quite as well as you claim (and I own one). OK I know some tenere's had gearbox failures so not a completely clean sheet for the model unfortunately.
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XT660Z written off from behind by car.
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Re: The Yamaha Tenere thread
slightly bias comparison,
ktm make bikes to be light and powerful, [lightness cost money]
the engines are usually more stressed [check hp per cc],
most ktm frames are Chromoly Steel so should stand up to corrosion ok though,
dave.
ktm make bikes to be light and powerful, [lightness cost money]
the engines are usually more stressed [check hp per cc],
most ktm frames are Chromoly Steel so should stand up to corrosion ok though,
dave.
Re: The Yamaha Tenere thread
Cant comment on KTM but just changed my 10 year old XT1200 for a new one. It had done 117000 miles and had no problems with it at all.
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I’d go along with that. If you want a performance machine a KTM will excite. If you want a bike that does most things well and will probably last a lot of miles.....Yamaha.
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My xt660z of 2009 vintage is at 85,000 mls no major breakdowns... Just keeps plodding along.... Fresh oil regularly is secret.... But most honda, yam and suzuki will do over 100,000 miles if looked after.... Ktms well they need regular beatings with a tree branch and garage visits.
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I see Yamaha are discontinuing the Super Ten in Europe, due to euro 5, but continuing to sell them in the States and Oz.
I wonder if that means no development of a new Super Ten - It’s performance, tech and weight are well behind the GS.
I, for one, hope that they’re developing something.
Perhaps they’ll produce something in the same vain as the T7 as a curve ball against the GS.
Oh and while they’re at it, a T3 as well please - and not in 5 years time
I wonder if that means no development of a new Super Ten - It’s performance, tech and weight are well behind the GS.
I, for one, hope that they’re developing something.
Perhaps they’ll produce something in the same vain as the T7 as a curve ball against the GS.
Oh and while they’re at it, a T3 as well please - and not in 5 years time
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I'm sure they already have a Tenere 250 in Brazil
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I never mentioned running costs or repairs, purely mileage.redbikejohn wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:51 pm Mmmm hands up any KTM that has done over 100k miles with zero engine, elec or mechanical parts failures, other than wear and tear like wheel bearings, discs/pads etc. From what I've read they really don't hold up quite as well as you claim (and I own one). OK I know some tenere's had gearbox failures so not a completely clean sheet for the model unfortunately.
Plenty of high mileage LC8s in evidence on ADVRider, in countries where large distances are the norm and expected.
I know you've had KTMs, just as I have had Yamahas. Not a question of brand loyalty.
Like Richard I've now got a 2004 950, my fifth LC8; and think the engine and most other parts are good quality.
Like most thoroughbreds, they do require tlc if used properly.
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Re: The Yamaha Tenere thread
Now the new T7 is being launched here with that extra catalyst in the headers to meet Euro5 I'm assuming that the "old" model will continue in the US etc with the original system?--anyone know?--I know it happens with other Yamaha models like the WR250R which was sold without even a lambda sensor in the US.