Capote deux

[davsato]

yes your dam right,i wish some people would lighten up.take care moto al

+1

(and its DAMN by the way)

teehee!

[moto al]

yes your dam right,i wish some people would lighten up.take care moto al

+1

(and its DAMN by the way)

teehee!

cheers i do have dyslexia,ko .site safe al

[PHILinFRANCE]

Read it all and its all up in the air at the mo !!! as soon as owts set in stone i'll let you all know , after all it is France and they are very persuasive !!!!
Phil

[East Coast]

Well I have to say that the last post has surprised me. When I brought the topic up it was a simple request to try and bring under one heading the changes in French motoring law and how they affect anyone visiting that country. If you visit France either on two wheels or four you're subject the law of that land and there, as here, ignorance of those laws is no excuse. How that can be a contentious issue and "detrimental to biking" is beyond me.

If you visit France either on two wheels or four you're subject the law of that land and there, as here, ignorance of those laws is no excuse.

Are you suggesting that I don't know that I am subject to french law while traveling in France?

How that can be a contentious issue and "detrimental to biking" is beyond me.

Simply put, you are scaremongering and that is the contentious issue! NOT the degree of ignorance towards a mixture of factual and fictitious laws as you are suggesting it is!

and "detrimental to biking" is beyond me.

Your original post was based on nothing more than hearsay and rumor and the debate that ensued only served to fuel that rumor even further across the internet!

Why is this detrimental to biking? Supposing I decided out of thin air to say that it was illegal to carry a pillion passenger in Italy or riders had to carry a spare chain in Germany or maybe even that speed limiters were to going to become law across Europe, it could quite quickly become a viral epidemic of the digital sort, just like most of the stuff that has been banded around and exaggerated about French regs.

Now imagine that a law maker in government picks up on these rumors as a good idea, and at around the same time so does his European counterparts, then all of a sudden what started as fictitious rumor is introduced as a new law and where does that get everyone? I don't want to have a speed limiter fitted to my bike!

If you are going to post stuff like this in future, please get your facts straight first as it really isn't helpful otherwise!

OK, now we know where you stand. Let's chuck this open to debate - are we fueling future restrictions with this sort of discussion or should it not be mentioned for fear of giving the politicians ideas?

Good call, why don't you open this up as a new thread so we can see how many other folk see value in speculating on over exaggerated regulation and rumor?

In the meantime, if it's the law I will follow it, if it's not I will follow my own common sense thank you!

Be seen, be safe.

[backofbeyond]

In the meantime, if it's the law I will follow it, if it's not I will follow my own common sense thank you!

Well, can't fault you with that. Now, perhaps you could tell me exactly what French law requires me to take with me - either on me or on the bike, when I visit that country. After all, in order to follow the law you have to know what it is. That's all this thread, and Al's before it, is trying to determine. Nothing else, no hidden agendas, no political motives, just a list of what I need to stay legal in France. Can you contribute to that?

[Mike54]

I thought I did that on page 1 B)

btw, it's reflective not hi vis, just to clear that up.

Also, the French equivalent of MAG is trying to have the (reflective bit of "stuff") law anulled (according to their website) but we'll have to see if that's successful.

The actual announcement is here

http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTex ... rieLien=id

Now what I CANT see here is the bit which talks about the size of the reflective bit of "stuff" so right now I'm not sure where that's coming from. Perhaps someone else can shed some light from some knowledge of what's actually been announced?

[PHILinFRANCE]

Licence
Insurance
Passport
Thats it at the Mo.
Ohh and a few €10 notes as bribes !!!!

[Mike54]

The bribing works too. I can say that from first hand experience. Still cost 50 quid though :laugh:

[East Coast]

[ol]
[li]Original Registration Document[/li]

[li]Motor vehicle insurance (take certificate that proves cover in France)[/li]

[li]GB Sticker (if you dont have Europlates)[/li]

[li]Headlamp adjustment[/li]
[/ol]

A lot of folks will already have 1, 2 (TPO Europe cover standard on most UK policies), and 3, so for them it's just a case of remembering to adjust your headlamps!

If you would like me to send you a copy of the spreadsheet backofbeyond, PM me your email address and I will email it to you.

EDIT. before you say it, Driving Licence.

Hope that helps.

In the meantime, if it's the law I will follow it, if it's not I will follow my own common sense thank you!

Well, can't fault you with that. Now, perhaps you could tell me exactly what French law requires me to take with me - either on me or on the bike, when I visit that country. After all, in order to follow the law you have to know what it is. That's all this thread, and Al's before it, is trying to determine. Nothing else, no hidden agendas, no political motives, just a list of what I need to stay legal in France. Can you contribute to that?

[backofbeyond]

If you would like me to send you a copy of the spreadsheet backofbeyond, PM me your email address and I will email it to you.

No probs, email is easy, it's just my user name @hotmail.com but if it's of use for this topic would it not be worth putting it up for all to see?