My point is - mid range off-roading singles are a bit nicheCrossrutted wrote:JB you're probably correct -so what?johnnyboxer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:56 pmBut not many are buying themCrossrutted wrote:I'll just leave this here... AJP PR7 - comes with all you need. 155Kgs.daveuprite wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:30 pm Here we go again... It's 220 kgs for god's sake! It's a single cylinder 650! Why on earth is it anything over 160kgs? That's like going everywhere with two sacks of cement on board, but nothing to build.
The Suzuki DR650 was 150kgs 30 years ago !
The current Yamaha T700 is lighter than this KLR and it's a 700cc TWIN !
For every PR7 Sold, I bet Yamaha are selling 25-30 T7’s as they appeal to more punters as a solid dual purpose bike that they can ride off-road and tour on
You can tour on anything - look at Godspeed for example. Solid? Exactly, equals overweight.
CCM and AJP have/are trying it
690/701 are more rounded & have to be modded for more serious off-road (as does the T700)
People seem to be drifting away from 600-700cc singles and towards lighter 700-800cc Twins, like the T7 and 790R as they seem to provide better fun/ability on the road to get to the trails and then are half decent on everything off-road (except extreme single track stuff) and this is what a lot of Adv Riders seem to want nowadays
People (as they get older are drifting down from the litre class Adv Bikes) to these twins and maybe a smaller 250/350 enduro or trail bikes for the really nadgery stuff