Adventure Bike Rider Forum

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

hotbulb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 am

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

So what do you think is the biggest challenge with low speed control of a motorcycle? Is it the mechanics involved (how to work clutch and throttle and balance) or could it be something different, like visual skills for example?

How might visual skills, or lack thereof, affect your ability to manage your motorcycle at low speeds? How might visuals affect when and where you turn the bike? (Talking about turning in too early).

hotbulb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 am

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

What is the usual outcome of turning in too early? What do you think triggers a rider to turn in early?

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 pm

hotbulb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 am

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

What is the usual outcome of turning in too early? What do you think triggers a rider to turn in early?

Anyone? Anyone?

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:19 pm

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 pm

hotbulb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 am

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

What is the usual outcome of turning in too early? What do you think triggers a rider to turn in early?

Anyone? Anyone?

Don’t you know?

SHarper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:00 am

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:19 pm

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 pm

hotbulb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 am

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

What is the usual outcome of turning in too early? What do you think triggers a rider to turn in early?

Anyone? Anyone?

Don’t you know?

I do know yes. But it wouldn't be a very good online discussion, then would it? I'm trying to encourage a discussion around riding technique, what happens when riders turn in too early, why they might turn in early and to get people thinking about examples in their own riding.

Misti wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:06 pm

SHarper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:00 am

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:19 pm

Misti wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:33 pm

hotbulb wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:18 am

Asgard wrote: ↑Mon Aug 03, 2020 7:46 am General Low speed control

Yes, that, but also I'm still not convinced that I don't turn in too early.

What is the usual outcome of turning in too early? What do you think triggers a rider to turn in early?

Anyone? Anyone?

Don’t you know?

I do know yes. But it wouldn't be a very good online discussion, then would it? I'm trying to encourage a discussion around riding technique, what happens when riders turn in too early, why they might turn in early and to get people thinking about examples in their own riding.

Sorry, can’t do discussion, my Mom wouldn’t like it.

Turning in too early results in running wide, riders may turn in too early when approaching an unknown corner too quickly, feeling the need to turn in early and get on with the corner.

When I turn in too early I wake up about 3AM and cant get back off again

mechanic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:44 pm Turning in too early results in running wide, riders may turn in too early when approaching an unknown corner too quickly, feeling the need to turn in early and get on with the corner.

Absolutely. It's a classic example of a survival reaction kicking in. Your brain interprets that you are entering into a corner too fast and so it tells you that you should turn in early, but that actually makes the situation worse as it causes you to run wide at the exit. Naturally, ensuring that you aren't entering into the corner too quickly will cut down on the desire to turn in too early, but what else can help with that?

Does where you look into the turn and when you look in have any effect on your perception of speed? Could you train your eyes visually to help reduce those panic feelings of being into a corner too fast?