Adventure Bike Rider Forum

I wonder if they have made any changes to the suspension set up, the 250s were set u for peeps under 8 stone, ( some how doubt it )
The other negative change is the frame, the separate rear subframe is now history and the frame is in one piece. Not so good it you damage the rear end. Honda say it’s to lighten the frame...... b*ll*cks.....it’s to reduce manufacturing costs.....
Saying that, it’s the same on the Yamaha T7 and I think it’s only us ex enduro / mx riders who will have an issue, but for most it won’t be noticed.
Would I go for a 300,? ....., I think I would, but my Rally is sorted and the thought of having to spend a fortune to sort the 300 means it won’t be happening for a good while.

boboneleg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:05 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2021-Honda-C ... Sw~apfz3gt

Tis a lot of money, though @ £6100

For a couple of grand more, or £2.5k you can have a T700 Tenere

found some info on the new gearbox and done a bit of comparason and it looks pretty good tbo im pretty used to the 13l 17l and 300 engines and gearboxes
one of the reasons i left the 300 gearset in is that it has a lower 1sst and closer ratios 2 to 5 with 6 being under the 250ls ..it easily allows a 15t front sprocket to work where as a lot of lads go 13 on the Ls ....a 13 on the below gearset trust me would have a fair bit of zest in it ...14s pleaty on the 300 for trail riding and 15 will work too

..the ratios on the cbr motor work really well that bit closer together and with a fairly big precentage more tourque and power slightly closer ratios it really is quite nippy to 60 ..what you notice straight away is there isnt any turbo lag waiting for 5.5k to arrive it just take the next gear and goes again ..so its a combo of several things 7hp touqueand gearset that make noticably more responsive

heres the good news the new 1st is slightly lower than the cb motor which in turn is a bit lower than the crfs
..gears 2345 are identical to the cbr motor which is good not silly short at all but each gear moves on from the next really nicley and the new 6th it taller than the existing one ...,,,it does look pretty much on the money and i think 14/40 will be ace at both ends with a slight suspision the gap to 2nd will still be a tad too wide now and again

..i think the days of 13t fronts will be over on the new 300 ..i think that box will work very well

1st gear: 3.538 3.538
2nd gear: 2.25 2.25
3rd gear: 1.65 1.65
4th gear: 1.346 1.346
5th gear: 1.115 1.115
6th gear: 0.925 0.925

dividing ist by 6th gearspread is a pretty high ranking 3.82 ....if they get the delivery right from the motor it will be a handy machine for sure

Wasn't sure if those interested had seen but these are now listed on Hondas website

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/ran ... tions.html

Hold the front page....Honda marketing makes a good decision!

Had to happen sooner or later!

Here in Europe it looks like the 300 Rally is not going to be available in France, Spain or Portugal but is in Germany and Italy - seems strange , I'm wondering what the logic is , if indeed there is any..

I hear the headlamp on the standard 250 is not very good...is the Rally one any better?

johnnyboxer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:57 pm

boboneleg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:05 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2021-Honda-C ... Sw~apfz3gt

Tis a lot of money, though @ £6100

For a couple of grand more, or £2.5k you can have a T700 Tenere

Or for £400 less a KTM 390???

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That got me thinking so I did a quick Google https://www.zigwheels.com/news-features ... son/40514/

According to this write up the KTM is more of a road bike to compare with the Verys300x and the 310gs. I’ve seen videos where the little Kawasaki does a lot better off road than the specs suggest so I imagine the KTM would too.
A 390R would be a much better comparison and hopefully one will be along shortly - sadly, I suspect, for a lot more money.

Thanks to Minky for his thoughts, must say I’m looking forward to a test ride when available.