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Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:32 pm
by Emf#53
Crossrutted wrote:
brett73 wrote:Let the Russians sort it they won't pussy foot about

Additionally, Putin is bombing the wrong people.
Which is why Turkey shot one of their planes down!

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:53 pm
by gbags
There is no oil in Africa that's why Isis are ignored in Africa.[/quote wrote:
No oil in Africa, really?

Nigeria, 2.2 million barrels a day.
Egypt
Libya
Algeria
Angola
South Africa
Sudan
Congo
The list goes on.

A lot of these have massive, largely untapped oil reserves.

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:15 pm
by Tonibe63
peterekins wrote:Listened to J Corbyn on the Vine show this morning, good on him for sticking to what he believes, about time. I read somewhere, dont know so dont ask, but it basically said every prime minister wants to go to war because it proves to themselves they have the power over life and death.
Besides that we wouldn't be bombing ISSIS we would be bombing Syrian civilians, women children old folk who are under seige from ISSIS.
At last, Thank You.
ISIS are not the only people in Syria, they are not walking around with a label on their back so we know who to bomb and ISIS are not going to sit around a campfire together waiting for an air strike.
Should we bomb every town in the UK that has a possible terrorist in it, how would YOU feel if it was where you and your Family live.

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:23 pm
by moto al
Tonibe63 wrote:
peterekins wrote:Listened to J Corbyn on the Vine show this morning, good on him for sticking to what he believes, about time. I read somewhere, dont know so dont ask, but it basically said every prime minister wants to go to war because it proves to themselves they have the power over life and death.
Besides that we wouldn't be bombing ISSIS we would be bombing Syrian civilians, women children old folk who are under seige from ISSIS.
At last, Thank You.
ISIS are not the only people in Syria, they are not walking around with a label on their back so we know who to bomb and ISIS are not going to sit around a campfire together waiting for an air strike.
Should we bomb every town in the UK that has a possible terrorist in it, how would YOU feel if it was where you and your Family live.
thank you a word of true sense at last . Al (thumbs)

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:44 pm
by CRAIGREVO
gbags wrote:
There is no oil in Africa that's why Isis are ignored in Africa.[/quote wrote:
No oil in Africa, really?

Nigeria, 2.2 million barrels a day.
Egypt
Libya
Algeria
Angola
South Africa
Sudan
Congo
The list goes on.

A lot of these have massive, largely untapped oil reserves.
I thought the value of oil in war is by stopping their supply you increase the value of your own supply.

If it's not oil then why is isis ignored in these countries?

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:07 pm
by rlkat
Tonibe63 wrote:
peterekins wrote:Listened to J Corbyn on the Vine show this morning, good on him for sticking to what he believes, about time. I read somewhere, dont know so dont ask, but it basically said every prime minister wants to go to war because it proves to themselves they have the power over life and death.
Besides that we wouldn't be bombing ISSIS we would be bombing Syrian civilians, women children old folk who are under seige from ISSIS.
At last, Thank You.
ISIS are not the only people in Syria, they are not walking around with a label on their back so we know who to bomb and ISIS are not going to sit around a campfire together waiting for an air strike.
Should we bomb every town in the UK that has a possible terrorist in it, how would YOU feel if it was where you and your Family live.
I could easily draw up a list of bomb-worthy UK towns and the collateral damage would be worth it.

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:34 pm
by Richard Simpson
Put a selfish hat on.

Reprint a load of articles from The Guardian, explaining that the UK under the Tories is a right-wing nightmare, the NHS is closing, starving people are rioting at foodbanks, the police are gunning down people with black skins, all welfare has been stopped, BTL landlords are turning families out into the streets etc etc.

Drop these on the columns of refugees, distribute them at the Jungle etc.

Then all the chancers currently hoping to get here will realise that the UK is a NeoCon nightmare, turn on their heels and go and fight ISIS for themselves.

The next thing to do is get a load of crop-sprayer aircraft and load them with pig manure and spray it all over ISIS areas. The 'heroic martyrs' will not risk death while they are Haram (filthy) because they won't get to go to heaven and rape the virgins, so they will have to surrender.

We can then cure them of their affliction by giving them each a nourishing pork roll, but not telling them what's in it until they have eaten it.

An absurd foreign policy? Maybe, but no more absurd than sending in the RAF as air-support for a fantasy army (FSA), and probably just as likely to be successful.

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:36 pm
by smudger272
Think of those poor BRTISH people who lost there lives in tunisia and that poor bloke who got beheaded by that fuck I say bomb the fuckers till they are all wiped out

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:41 pm
by Crossrutted
smudger272 wrote:Think of those poor BRTISH people who lost there lives in tunisia and that poor bloke who got beheaded by that fuck I say bomb the fuckers till they are all wiped out
:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:

You've done it now!

Incoming....

Seriously, plenty of earlier conflicts have shown bombing alone does not deliver victory.
( Vietnam for instance, theYank's later " shock & awe" in Iraq didn't seem to work either)

Re: When will we ever learn?

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:17 pm
by -Ralph-
CRAIGREVO wrote:Why is it our fight? Surly the three big powers of France Russia and the US can deal with it without us getting involved.

Where is the money? Oil its always oil. There is no oil in Africa that's why Isis are ignored in Africa.
What oil will we gain by bombing ISIS?

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