What caused this?

[Fried Egg Sandwich]

what cause, we bikers never had a cause, thats because will always be seen as the bad guys in situations like this, so you wasting you time talking about causes, so you are

Bull, Bikers have been victims of poor PR by the media and successive Government's for decades - you should surely be aware of that.

Motorcycles are a legitimate form of transport and a legal bike has as much right to be on the road as any other road user, but that's not the way the media portray it.

This seeps into the nation's consciousness and you find a 'popular prejudice' against us becomes the norm, and anytime a biker does bad it gets highlighted and jumped upon.

MAG have since it's inception tried to redress the balance here.

The cause of which I speak is our right to be treated as equals amongst road user, not treated as some second class citizen just because I choose a different mode of transport form most.

This bunch of clowns have done nothing to dispel the myths and popular prejudice against us. If you were not aware of this I hope that I have now been able to highlight it to you.

Ride free bud, while you still can. B)

[Phil]

really hard to tell from the video...and yes, im judging a book by it cover but the bikers looked like dickheads.

But i dont get the first bit??..the sports bike is riding by the left front wing of the RR looking at the driver, then movies in front, then in the RR lane, then slows down, then gets hit.

Is he trying to slow the RR down? or is the RR busy looking where all the other bikers are and didn't see him?? or did the RR hit him on purpose?

The only thing i can think of is once he hit him the bikers were probably showing some aggression (power in numbers and all that) and the RR driver just panicked...fight or flight syndrome.

To be honest the situation could of been a lot lot worse.

[Old Git Ray]

It looks to me like the bikes initial manoeuvre was deliberate he looked at the driver, cut in front of him and then anchored up. I would guess, likely because the RR did not move out of the way (which he has no obligation to do in the US) so the bikers went either side of him. The biker was a cock and dragged all his mates into a situation that f--ked up the whole day. How does the RR driver know whether he is being scammed or robbed in a City with such a high murder rate ?

I was involved in a similar situation whilst in the Police. I was overseeing a cyclists "Reclaim the streets" ride in London. A black taxi got caught up in amongst the bikes and as I was driving alongside in my police car. A cyclist rode between us looked at me and then cut in front of the cab and hit his brakes. The cab knocked the bike over at about 5mph. He was not injured but immediately started shouting at me regarding the cabs bad driving. I took a different view and decided it was deliberate and arrested the cyclist for damaging the cabs bumper. Had I not done so the cab driver would have suffered in the future with his insurance premiums for something what was deliberately done to him essentially for political purposes. (in short he picked the wrong cop to perform in front of).
Needless to say, chaos ensued and the demonstration in front of the police station made me not too popular with my bosses but the bike was in the wrong, end of.

I see this as the same situation.

[bull]

i give up, so i do,

i mean, so what if the bikers were riding like clowns or dickheads, this was some kind of annual biker rally, you are always going to get sunday riders acting like dickheads and clowns at these things, that dont mean that their are bad people, so it dont,

the biker that got hit seemed to be slowing down and looking back at the camera biker, the crash itself was no big deal,

now, except for the last few seconds, where the biker breaks the windows of the RR, someone point out to me where the the bikers acted aggressively, because i cant see it, and we have only the people in RR word for it, and what else are they going to say,

remember, theres a good chance that alot of these bikers didnt know if anyone was hurt or killed when the RR plowed through the bikers, if his happened to you guys, what you do, most of you would chase down the RR and try to stop him getting away, and maybe break his windows to try and stop him, i feel that the bikers got a raw deal in this,


so lads and ladys, the next time that your are at a bike meet or rally and are riding down the road with 15 or 20 bikers, and one of the bikes gets in an accident with a car,

whatever you do, dont go back to the scene of the accident to see what happened, because you run the risk of being called an angry mob

so, just run away in all different directions across fields and over hegderows, run like the wind

[stormfield]

The bikers being idiots with their brakes at the beginning of the video doesn't make right the fact that the RR ran over the motorbikes (twice?). He could have killed someone.

With that action, he changed the situation from silly drama to life-and-death, so of course the group went chasing after him.

[special one]

http://news.sky.com/story/1148430/nypd- ... ked-driver

[mark1150]

What we can't see is why the bike that initially tried to stop the RR took such an action.
I'd guess that there was an incident further back involving either him or a friends bike to cause such a reaction.
What you have all seen was a mass ride out in NYC, similar to the things we have over here.
Without the bollox of angry mobs etc spoken throughout this thread it was obviously a peaceful (until then) rally which is bourne out by the lack of Police escort, to which in my opinion there must have been a catalyst further back.
By and large people only get angry to that extent when there is something to get angry about.
I interpreted it as probable incident further back, driver tries to make a run for it?
Camera starts rolling and driver still has no intention of stopping,
Driver decides to make his escape by driving over or through anything in his way.

I agree with the above, take away the engines, and put the riders in spandex and the world and his canine buddy would want the RR driver lynched from the nearest lamp column.
Oh and just because he had his wife and kid with him doesn't make his actions right, infact with them on board you'd think that he should have been more vigilgant.

[stormfield]

Oh and just because he had his wife and kid with him doesn't make his actions right

Even when the bikes finally caught up with the bloke's car, it was only him that they got.
As the news link says "The wife and child were unhurt."

[Jelly]

so lads and ladys, the next time that your are at a bike meet or rally and are riding down the road with 15 or 20 bikers, and one of the bikes gets in an accident with a car,

whatever you do, dont go back to the scene of the accident AND START DAMAGING THE CAR IN AN AGGRESSIVE MANNER , because you run the risk of being called an angry mob

I've had 2 or 3 ride outs with other ABR folk and this kind of incident would never occur, being more senior riders, most struggle to find enough energy to put the side stand down, let alone start kicking off! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[bull]

so lads and ladys, the next time that your are at a bike meet or rally and are riding down the road with 15 or 20 bikers, and one of the bikes gets in an accident with a car,

whatever you do, dont go back to the scene of the accident AND START DAMAGING THE CAR IN AN AGGRESSIVE MANNER , because you run the risk of being called an angry mob

I've had 2 or 3 ride outs with other ABR folk and this kind of incident would never occur, being more senior riders, most struggle to find enough energy to put the side stand down, let alone start kicking off! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: