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There won't be a European superstate until every country has the same language, currency and amongst other things, use the same measurement system and drive on the same side of the road. None of which will happen, hence why the European superstate bo!!ocks is just that, bo!!ocks .

AlanHolt wrote:There won't be a European superstate until every country has the same language, currency and amongst other things, use the same measurement system and drive on the same side of the road. None of which will happen, hence why the European superstate bo!!ocks is just that, bo!!ocks .

You and I both think that but Junkers doesen't. :unsure:

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Then why don't they just give up now?
The EU is like herding cats.
There will never be equality of staus between constituent countries so it won't / can't work.
It's the EU that's bollocks all the time it carries on like it is.
And it's about time everyone realised what a complete and utter disaster Junker is and get shot of the oik.

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DavidS wrote:In response to Jak's question.


You will recall that those of we Brexiteers of that certain age who were happy to trade say that it is the relentless loss of our own control that was a big factor in voting that way.
Immigration, jobs etc were a factor but certainly not to the hysterical level Remainers claim we based our vote on.

Succintly put David.

petecam wrote:*

And at the end of the day. What difference does it make to you old twats on this forum? None that's what. But you've Fucked up my 5 year old daughter's future!

IMHO

Perhaps if you sell that BMW you just bought and forgo the new Twatsuit you plan on buying you can help secure a brighter future for your offspring........alternatively blame any negative outcome on someone else, eh?

How does that work then? Sell a bike and a two piece suit and that gives you back the right to live, work, be educated in any European country?

Seminole wrote:

petecam wrote:*

And at the end of the day. What difference does it make to you old twats on this forum? None that's what. But you've Fucked up my 5 year old daughter's future!

IMHO

Perhaps if you sell that BMW you just bought and forgo the new Twatsuit you plan on buying you can help secure a brighter future for your offspring........alternatively blame any negative outcome on someone else, eh?

It's not just the kids who are suffering, after 12 months of taking a 20% pay cut I can't top up my income any more from conventional savings, so I'm having to hit my pension plan early, which in due course, assuming I make it to old bones, will make me a pauper much earlier than i had planned for.

So thank you Great Britain and I'll see you in 20 years time to claim my 'rights' having paid my tax and social security on the nail since 1973 - I wonder how much fun my life will be by then?

Regs

Simon

The comments at the moment from the G20 are interesting, essentially most commentators seem to think that Europe is in a position of strength. The new free trade deal with Japan certainly would seem to indicate this.
I am not really sure how much of a difference it makes to most people whether we are governed by Whitehalll or Brussels in once sense. Much of the European legislation on social issues, the environment and employment law has been of benefit to the average worker and the poor. I grant you that it has been a hinderance in some ways to smaller businesses. I think if we leave the EU the balance of power will shift from Brussels to big global businesses who we will be approaching cap in hand.
Regarding my view of what influenced the vote, it is based on what I have listened to and read since the referendum and the vast majority of commentators say the overriding factors were dissatisfaction with the current state of the UK, which as has been discussed on here many times is largely due to the UK government or our interpretation of EU rules, and immigration. As an individual you may well have voted for different reasons but that does not change why the majority voted. The fact that UKIP focused so much of their campaign on immigration highlights this. Many people on here and elsewhere have presented some very coherent arguments for leaving, but one year on how many still think it was worth it?
Cheers Jak