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Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:23 am
by AndyB
It's always going to be difficult to move a country up from nett beneficiary to nett contributor while a large chunk of their workforce is away from home contributing to another countries GDP figures but moving their wages back home. I'll use Poland as a basic example because there must be a hefty wedge of cash flowing into the country from migrant workers sending cash home but until they actually work in their own country it'll always have a low GDP and be a beneficiary.
I don't want to see them stopped from working away and improving their families lives but unless a magic solution appears that will show that extra money going into the economy they'll stay right where they are.
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:57 am
by scutty
AndyB wrote:I'll use Poland as a basic example because there must be a hefty wedge of cash flowing into the country from migrant workers sending cash home but until they actually work in their own country it'll always have a low GDP
Actually, remittances (money sent home my migrant workers) has a huge benefit to an economy, stimulating spending and growth and adding to that countries GDP.
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:16 am
by AndyB
scutty wrote:AndyB wrote:I'll use Poland as a basic example because there must be a hefty wedge of cash flowing into the country from migrant workers sending cash home but until they actually work in their own country it'll always have a low GDP
Actually, remittances (money sent home my migrant workers) has a huge benefit to an economy, stimulating spending and growth and adding to that countries GDP.
Does it? That's good then and I'm happy to be corrected on that one (thumbs)
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:22 am
by scutty
Btw - here are the top 20 remittance receivers in the world:

Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 11:47 am
by daytona-supersport
CRAIGREVO wrote:I've actually had a massive change of heart involving the EU after buying tyres for my bike.
My mate told me about Tyre leader a German company where I could get them considerably cheaper so I did. B)
Obviously having seen the personal savings I can make as part of being in the EU Id be mad to vote leave now. (thumbs)
Holy cow Batman. :woohoo:
In the game of EU top trumps, cheap tyre has got to beat all else. (thumbs)
How much was the saving? If it was over 10 Euro I'll vote to stay in. :laugh:
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:45 pm
by CRAIGREVO
Scott_rider wrote:^...Oponeo Tyres are probably cheaper and they are based in West London :huh:
(But they do ship the tyres in from anywhere where they can buy them cheaply in the EU :laugh: ).
Now I don't know which way to vote. Its so confusing. :unsure: :laugh:
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:00 pm
by Scott_rider
Since 1973, Ireland has received 41 Billion euros more from the EU than it's put in.
You read that correct. 41 Billion :huh: .
That's a lot of dosh...I don't think the UK has received a single pound more than it's put in over the same time?
That's another bonkers statistic...I'm OUT (thumbs) .
(my family is Irish so this isn't a dig at Eire).
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 6:54 pm
by scutty
Ireland's economy in that time has grown from a GDP of $7.4 Bil to $232 Bil - seems like that is an economy success story to me?
As idividuals it is hard to comprehend Billions of £s but, from a country point of view, 41 Billion over 43 years is really not that much. The UKs GDP is 2.768 TRILLION
We give 5x more in foreign aid than we do to the EU (nett)
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:52 pm
by Dutchgit
AndyB wrote: She advised me to put a Germany sticker on the bike rather than a GB one and to tell everyone who would listen that Germany is the best place to live :laugh:
To me it is (thumbs)
Economy is booming, people spend money and keep the ball rolling.
Re: EU. In or out?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:07 pm
by AndyB
Dutchgit wrote:AndyB wrote: She advised me to put a Germany sticker on the bike rather than a GB one and to tell everyone who would listen that Germany is the best place to live :laugh:
To me it is (thumbs)
Economy is booming, people spend money and keep the ball rolling.
I'll be in Germany by mid morning tomorrow but this time I'm only stopping for fuel because I want to be in Poland by tea time. I do like Germany though and might have 2-3 days in the Black Forest on my way home.