If you're loaded 3 up it saves some money getting to a venue which in our case was 75 miles each way.garyboy wrote:why does one need a trailer for a `do-it-all` bike ?
Rode my DR250xc Djebel with camping gear to Scotland / Wales & back this year.garyboy wrote://If you're loaded 3 up it saves some money getting to a venue which in our case was 75 miles each way.
Plus if you're wearing decent knoblies you don't want to dull the edges too much on tarmac.
Yesterdays jaunt was more of a ride out on the lanes than an adventure tour. // QUOTE
I am not knocking the logic and practicality of this .. and I like the trailer. btw.
what I am knocking is calling a small bike a `do it all` bike .. when a trailer is needed for practical sensible purposes ?
my TTR600 covered the same distances this Monday ... but no trailer ..
it `did-it-all`
(ok.. I wuz knackered cold and wet, and struggled with the weight when stuck in a cold stream on my own ... but I did-it-all)
its just the terminology I am critisizing
If your using intermediate or soft tyres they dont last long on tarmac plus its quite nice after a days riding to get in the car turn the heater on and sit in a comfortable seat driving home as it hammers down with rain (thumbs). I think it depends what do it all bike you have as theres often a trade off between real on and off road capabilities.garyboy wrote:why does one need a trailer for a `do-it-all` bike ?
You and your mate Picos should come out with us in North Wales, Johnny. You can come on your DR's and we will come on our "whizz bang" KTMs etc. You'll quickly find out just how "piss easy" some of the trails are.johnnyboxer wrote:Indeed & that's the truthhalfpint wrote:went on big trf ride in thetford yesterday, most bikes there were enduro bikes ktm . a few big bike and some odds and sods all went round ok . it seems to me that most riders need the bling factor to look good. if you have the money great, just ride anything its about be out there having a good time that simple..my wr 250x went round fine and then rode home , it about being out not what you ride.
Spunk £7k on a new whizz bang KTM to look like David Knight, just to ride piss easy trails whilst pouring scorn on someone who turns up on a £1500 trail bike in army camo gear
Looks very good, albeit £2K more than the KLX250. I would say it's a full blown enduro bike, not a trail bike. Any better than WR450 or CRF450X???SteveW wrote:What I can't understand is that the KLX250 (as a bike available new currently) seems to be on everyone's short list.
The KLX 450 is 3x the bike the 250 is. It's easier to ride because you don't need to be in exactly the right gear like you need to be on the terribly underpowered 250, it's smooth torque is your friend on muddy trails, you don't need to ride it with the throttle on the stop between trails and its stock suspension has more travel and is of better quality.
The oil and filter doesn't need changing for at the least 2000 miles with trail use, which is a year on UK trails, so I'd be changing the oil on the 250 after a year anyway.
As a trail bike is far better than the 250.
I know I am pissing into the wind on this one!
I've ridden a few & struggled with a few all over WalesMike54 wrote:You and your mate Picos should come out with us in North Wales, Johnny. You can come on your DR's and we will come on our "whizz bang" KTMs etc. You'll quickly find out just how "piss easy" some of the trails are.johnnyboxer wrote:Indeed & that's the truthhalfpint wrote:went on big trf ride in thetford yesterday, most bikes there were enduro bikes ktm . a few big bike and some odds and sods all went round ok . it seems to me that most riders need the bling factor to look good. if you have the money great, just ride anything its about be out there having a good time that simple..my wr 250x went round fine and then rode home , it about being out not what you ride.
Spunk £7k on a new whizz bang KTM to look like David Knight, just to ride piss easy trails whilst pouring scorn on someone who turns up on a £1500 trail bike in army camo gear
Weren't you just asking about a KTM350 exc though..? Are you going all "whizz bang"?
Who said I was talking about youSteveW wrote: Bollox. Inverted Snobbery.
If it's your hobby spend what you can afford. Get the best bike for your budget, good equipment will help, not hinder your learning curve.
If you want to really spunk some brass, buy a 20 grand car for your daily commute and a weekly trip to ASDA, when a Kia or a Hyundai will piss the job.
