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Ummm ... And would the walls go up along the Northern Ireland border? :whistle:

moto al wrote:May I ask without being castigated ,What happens if the vote is out. .. Regarding SCOTLAND..???. Now I'm not taking about gossip ,bull and kilt merde . I ask regarding the legal and constitutional angle. And please don't start the anti jock thing, keep this debate sensible . Best regards ,and sit safe lads.Al (thumbs) (thumbs) And I want too stay in along with the Scottish Parliament

You would have another referendum to leave the UK, simple. We only have to fart in the wrong tone for the SNP to call one anyway.

But this time it will be without the promise of oil riches as that showed itself to be unstable. Without the promise of keeping the pound as you would have to accept the Euro to join the EU. It would also have to include manned boarders to stop migrants exploiting Scotland to enter the UK illegally. (thumbs)

CRAIGREVO wrote:

moto al wrote:May I ask without being castigated ,What happens if the vote is out. .. Regarding SCOTLAND..???. Now I'm not taking about gossip ,bull and kilt merde . I ask regarding the legal and constitutional angle. And please don't start the anti jock thing, keep this debate sensible . Best regards ,and sit safe lads.Al (thumbs) (thumbs) And I want too stay in along with the Scottish Parliament

You would have another referendum to leave the UK, simple. We only have to fart in the wrong tone for the SNP to call one anyway.

But this time it will be without the promise of oil riches as that showed itself to be unstable. Without the promise of keeping the pound as you would have to accept the Euro to join the EU. It would also have to include manned boarders to stop migrants exploiting Scotland to enter the UK illegally. (thumbs)

. Hi bud , I can see parallels with referendum , as with the Scottish one,bogie men , losing pensions , all the bad thing going too happen.. Just remember what happened after the Scottish referendum ,... A huge backlash for all the bullshit we were told. So beware lads ,it could happen again. Ps thank got we a got bikes

As I said before mate I think just like the Scottish referendum created a surge of support for the SNP. A remain vote will spark a huge surge of support for UKIP.

CRAIGREVO wrote:As I said before mate I think just like the Scottish referendum created a surge of support for the SNP. A remain vote will spark a huge surge of support for UKIP.

.. Never mind in 5 weeks we will know, and in 6 weeks a large part of the population ,will be more interested in X FACTOR or BRITAIN go nae Talent. Cheers Al (thumbs)

CRAIGREVO wrote:

Dutchgit wrote:

CRAIGREVO wrote:

Look around the EU at the moment and see the rise of all the far right groups, then ask yourself is the EU really creating peace? :whistle:

Whenever there is bad "management" there are populists trying to turn their own fortune influencing the (mostly lower schooled and lower paid classes). It's what the world has come to, sad as it is.

So you admit the EU is badly managed?

Of course it is ! There are money and politics involved, not to mention power hungry people.

My neighbour was born in former Eastern Germany and his parents say: It's nice that the wall has come down with free travel and all that and getting rid of the Stasi was the best but on the whole life wasn't that bad behind the iron curtain. Everybody had a job, they all had food, free schooling, free healthcare and so on.

i also see it as a way of holding these lightweight politicians to account .. there wb none of this 'can't do anything its the eu' malarky ... also.. move parliament to lincoln (or similar) and cull 3/4 of the lords and apply the savings to the nhs.
you can have two types of change ..evolutionary and revolutionary and i'm favouring to latter at the mo. B)

Id vote for that mate move parliament up north to save money and open the old building up as a tourist attraction. (thumbs)

If we were going to reform our own system I'd have no doubts about voting to leave but we won't change anything here and I'm too much of a cynic to believe that if leaving the EU actually saves us some money it'll go on things like the NHS.

One step at a time Andy. There is no point in any kind of reform in this country while we have no real say anyway.