Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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TRF members up there who know where this is should write to [email protected] asap and ask them what they are doing about it.
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A TRF director has posted on the TRF website to say they have it all in hand and this is misinformed scaremongering [or words to that effect].
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Pint Master wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:48 pm The lane is in 3 parts the first 2 just south of Cockley Cley where the Ist lane ends and you ride north for about quarter of a mile to 2nd section the 2nd section is separated from the 3rd section by the width of a road and the 3rd section ends on the Swaffham to Newmarket road 2 or 3 miles south of Swaffham , its mostly single track.Hope that helps.
Yep that’s the one I thought. I love that lane and it would be a great loss. I am surprised its on the radar as its hardly over used, the last time I rode it there was grass as good as your lawn* below you.

*To be fair not my lawn, its terrible but a lawn you might get at a someone else’s house ;-)
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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2 Yams wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:22 pm TRF members up there who know where this is should write to [email protected] asap and ask them what they are doing about it.
A TRF director has posted on the TRF website to say they have it all in hand and this is misinformed scaremongering [or words to that effect].
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Hmmm. How can it be scaremongering unless it’s a fake notice?
I’m not allowed on the TRF faceache page so can’t be bothered to look at the website.
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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DavidS wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:50 pm
2 Yams wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:22 pm TRF members up there who know where this is should write to [email protected] asap and ask them what they are doing about it.
A TRF director has posted on the TRF website to say they have it all in hand and this is misinformed scaremongering [or words to that effect].
Hmmm. How can it be scaremongering unless it’s a fake notice?
I’m not allowed on the TRF faceache page so can’t be bothered to look at the website.
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It's all explained on the web site for anyone who can be bothered........and believes it :roll:
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Here's what was said...

"Norfolk TRF have had this matter in hand with the assistance of TRF’s legal team for a number of weeks.

We are aware of wildly exaggerated, ill-informed and inaccurate reports on social media re this road.

Far from being under significant threat, all that has happened is that an application has been made by a member of the public to record the established carriageway as a restricted byway. But this is not possible as the carriageway benefits from a NERC exemption – it is recorded on the list of streets.

Norfolk Council are going through the motions required by statute – they have to investigate the application even where they are aware that the road is an ordinary road.

In the unlikeley event that Norfolk CC make a decision to downgrade the road to BOAT or RB, the public can then object to the proposed downgrade. But we are a long way off that stage at present – if it ever happens."
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Richard Simpson Mark II wrote:Here's what was said...

"Norfolk TRF have had this matter in hand with the assistance of TRF’s legal team for a number of weeks.

We are aware of wildly exaggerated, ill-informed and inaccurate reports on social media re this road.

Far from being under significant threat, all that has happened is that an application has been made by a member of the public to record the established carriageway as a restricted byway. But this is not possible as the carriageway benefits from a NERC exemption – it is recorded on the list of streets.

Norfolk Council are going through the motions required by statute – they have to investigate the application even where they are aware that the road is an ordinary road.

In the unlikeley event that Norfolk CC make a decision to downgrade the road to BOAT or RB, the public can then object to the proposed downgrade. But we are a long way off that stage at present – if it ever happens."
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Why do all these statements have to resort to put downs or sarcasm?
A simple comfort comment that it is being dealt with would suffice.
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Just the way some people are, David: passive-aggressive, sarcastic, patronising.

It must be very sad having to go through life like that. You can only feel sorry for them.
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Im certainly not scaremongering I was and still am concerned about the loss of this lane , the NERC act came about because we were all lulled into a false sense of security and Wham suddenly all the RUPPs are stolen from us , the notice is not fake and I find it hard to believe that Norfolk County Council would just go through the motions , I hope they are but surely it doesn't hurt if they are made aware of our strength of feeling.
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Re: Norfolk Lane Under Threat.

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Far be it for me to criticise the TRF 'rights of roads' director, but my understanding of NERC was that where dual-status existed: ie a road was on the List of Streets AND on the Definitive Map, than its status on the DM (for example as a pre-NERC Road Used As Public Path, which became a Resticted Byway after NERC) trumped its status as being on the List of Streets.

I understood this was why the northern end of Sarn Helen was closed to vehicles, and many of the lanes in Gloucestershire were lost.

But, it could be that I am wrong and he is right, in which case there are a lot more lanes to ride than I thought. Which is a good thing, obviously!

I'll be a happy man if I am wrong. :D
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