Modding engines in teh future?

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Modding engines in teh future?

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Don't know if this has been posted already, but it looks like the government is planning on making it illegal to alter the performance of any vehicle though chipping, remapping, tampering with emissions equipment etc.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... ersion.pdf

HTH it will be policed, is known only to the Govt!!
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Reading bike mag today about reflashing ecu, to do so on latest Ducati's you need a password, get past that and flash ecu next time a Ducati dealer services it they restore to factory settings
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Yep, the beginning of the end. Hopefully they will concentrate on the newer models, older bike will be the way to go?
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Most highly modern engines are a tuned package, modifying parts of that usually has negative effect on other parts. But it's your bike and as long as you are not making it dangerous, more polluting, or disturbing the peace, you should be able to modify it.
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Agreed, but trouble is we ride them on public roads shared with other people.
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Agreed, but trouble is we ride them on public roads shared with other people.
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Nigel wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:07 pm Reading bike mag today about reflashing ecu, to do so on latest Ducati's you need a password, get past that and flash ecu next time a Ducati dealer services it they restore to factory settings
Cheeky!! :o
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Magnusson wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:34 pm Most highly modern engines are a tuned package, modifying parts of that usually has negative effect on other parts. But it's your bike and as long as you are not making it dangerous, more polluting, or disturbing the peace, you should be able to modify it.
Not according to the Govt!! :?


The issue will of course be how any enforcement person can tell if you have been a bad boy. A 125 bobbing along at 75MPH might be a giveaway, a bigger machine with a tweaked ECU for a smoother level of performance of the engine, ironing out the emission "blips", is probably not as easy to identify.
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That feature in Buke magazine was a disaster.
The idiot they featured said his modifications were to improve riding around town by disabling emissions controls, including the 02 sensor.
It's precisely because of this that we are getting this legislation, and no doubt a more expensive MoT test to enforce it.
Some people really don't know when to keep their mouths shut.
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Magnusson wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:34 pm Most highly modern engines are a tuned package, modifying parts of that usually has negative effect on other parts. But it's your bike and as long as you are not making it dangerous, more polluting, or disturbing the peace, you should be able to modify it.
The problem is, this is exactly what happens when you decat the exhaust, chip the ECU, and put a loud 'can' on.
A few years back, truck operators were disabling the troublesome NOx controls on Euro V trucks. Devices were openly sold on the internet. It's now part, not just of the annual test, but also a roadside inspection, to check for AdBlue emulators and other devices. Get caught with one on a truck, and you can expect to get your operation taken off the road as it is judged detrimental to 'fair competition' as well as environmentally-damaging.
I'm amazed that the motorcycle industry has been 'off the radar' with this for so long. I could see it coming, and I've kept the standard exhausts on my KTM 950 for this reason.
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