Petrol: supermarket vs shell etc

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All sounds like 'spin' to me but then again so is the whole EV hysteria.
As somebody who has dabbled with veg oil/biodiesel/hydrogen/water injection my experience is that making biofuel and also hydrogen takes a heck of a lot of chemicals and electric. I'd also by interested to find out what NoX is produced rather than just talk about CO2 but if they can make the figures for carbon offset look good then it could help the Politicians appear to 'achieve' their radical policies ....... it is the only way.
Either way it will be the motorist that will ultimately pay the price in fuel cost and new vehicles or modification to existing ones.
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I see KTM are running Elf fuel now in Moto GP--and they are quicker? Ethanol contains oxygen of course---which has no calorific value, hence "diluting" the HC fuel a bit. It is used primarily in the US to give the Mid west farmers an outlet for all their corn--they have massive processing plants starting with barges full of corn to produce the volumes of ethanol .
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In 5 -10 years we”ll all be on electric motorcycles, so probably not much relevance the the quality of petrol
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johnnyboxer wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:48 pm In 5 -10 years we”ll all be on electric motorcycles, so probably not much relevance the the quality of petrol
10 years?, im not sure. Five years?, no chance.
There's a shit load of oil left.
Governments and big business (close friends they be) need to sell this shit and green is only embraced when it can make a buck
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Seminole wrote:
johnnyboxer wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:48 pm In 5 -10 years we”ll all be on electric motorcycles, so probably not much relevance the the quality of petrol
10 years?, im not sure. Five years?, no chance.
There's a shit load of oil left.
Governments and big business (close friends they be) need to sell this shit and green is only embraced when it can make a buck
I will be driving an electric car within 5-10 years for sure
I would surprised at not riding an electric bike in a similar time scale too
Electric is taking over in the world of Trials in the dirt bike world - with kids riding Oset electric bikes and ePure eMotion making adult electric Trials bikes and if you turn up at an event now, the numbers are steadily growing from none, 2 years ago
A few chaps in our TRF have electric KTM dirt bikes
The revolution is growing
With the ongoing planned restrictions from governments on combustion engine vehicles, via congestion charges then our Petrol bikes will become outlawed
I can see vehicle restrictions coming into Britain’s National Parks within 5-10 years where we won’t be able to ride in them without paying a charge or some kind of paid for permits
The bicycle world is being revolutionised by ebikes (even I have one) and you can get a 30 mile ride off-road now and ride in areas where motorcycles have been banned from the trails
Electric is the future-embrace it !!
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Been mountain biking 25+ years have 1 e bike in the stable never had a car till I was 41. I’m probably greener than most Johnny, but also a realist.
If you really think we might ALL be on electric bikes in 5 years better get selling your other bikes now
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Seminole wrote:Been mountain biking 25+ years have 1 e bike in the stable never had a car till I was 41. I’m probably greener than most Johnny, but also a realist.
If you really think we might ALL be on electric bikes in 5 years better get selling your other bikes now
I said 5-10 years

I didn’t think it would happen in Trials, but the change is slowly happening

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Synthetic petrol and diesel with no emissions will save our bikes and cars so we don't have to have electric.
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