KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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I've just changed the pads on my 640, and the rear caliper piston has a plastic insert which stands about 1mm proud of the piston outer ring. The plastic is cracked, and a prod with a finger made some of it crumble away. Is this insert normal? Does the fact it's crumbling warrant a new piston? I've been working on bikes and cars for over 30 years and never seen anything plastic pushed into the end of a brake piston.
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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I just picked this off Fowlers website.
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/58 ... r-rear-lc4
Could it just be part of the piston sealing rings that need replacing?
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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No, this is like a plastic disc that is pushed into the inner recess of the piston, so is smaller than the piston. The piston and seals are intact and in good condition.
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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Have a look through this
http://www.ktm950.info/how/Orange%20Gar ... _rear.html
One of the pics near bottom will show you what I think you are talking about.
I recently rebuilt my rear caliper on the 950 and got new upgraded pistons with a cap on the piston.
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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Thanks, that clears that up. I'll order a new piston on monday.
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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AlanHolt wrote: Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:11 pm Thanks, that clears that up. I'll order a new piston on monday.
Whilst doing your piston you may as well do the seals aswell
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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Yeah, I put a hole through the one in one of my pistons too, quite some time ago. I just covered it with tape so water didn't get in but it'll be pressed against the back of the pad anyway so probably not necessary. I don't think they have any critical function.
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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Greetings,

Perhaps the 'plastic' insert has three functions, first - to prevent brake squeal, second - to prevent the pad corroding to the piston and third being that if the pad corrodes the piston and/or the caliper sticks to each other then the piston can still be retracted by deformation of the main seal :?: :idea: :?:

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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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From what i've been reading, its referred to as a ventilator. As it stands slightly proud of the piston, I can only think that too much heat was being transferred from the pad to the piston, so a thin plastic spacer will stop the heat transfer.
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Re: KTM 640 Adventure rear caliper question

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To help with heat dissipation and hopefully stop brake from going looong when riding especially off road.

One of reasons I did upgrade pistons and rebuild apart from leaking seals.
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