PLEASE SHOW RESPECT

[g00ner]

That was in July 2020 - almost a year ago, in Kielder, England. Not that it makes it any better.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... auty-spots

Like patronising a forum of middle aged bikers would tackle the issue anyhow.

[moto al]

HI CHAPS, I POSTED WHATS HAPPING I, GET A HARD TIME BIKERS, CAMPERVANS, CARS. THATS REALITIY , SO VERY SAD

[moto al]

a footnote, having wild camped at the northcap , iv never seen so much merd , left on my on my own home country completly out of order .sore
RY for my rant . i just hate to see this happen.AL

[moto al]

AND THIS IS OK.

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[Steve T]

Cheap camping gear and a use once mentality, they have probably driven home and just left it all.
Buy some more next time, cheaper than camping fees attitude, like the aftermath at concerts.
Unfortunately their fun is at somebody else's expense.

Pound to a penny that the A-Holes that leave that sort of sh1te in that area are Weeeggies . . . who should have still been walled up in the city according Heir Sturgeon.

It has happened enough times in the past, hence the local bye laws around Loch Lomond, which go against the Right to Roam legislation enacted by the Snippers back in 2005, preventing wild camping without permit!

Steve T

[Steve 63]

HI CHAPS, I POSTED WHATS HAPPING I, GET A HARD TIME BIKERS, CAMPERVANS, CARS. THATS REALITIY , SO VERY SAD

With respect Al b y all means post up the bloody mess people leave behind and open up some debate, but do you really think that the people who read or post on here would even think of leaving any litter let alone the disgusting mess shown in some of these pictures, just saying...........

[92kk k100lt 193214]

Its not only a Scotland problem. I had a nice bike ride out yesterday and found a nice camp site and good facilities above a sandy beach and in some of the sandy areas of the beach itself, similar debris left by campers.

I think there should be an annual permit required for wild camping in any country. so that police can ask you for it if they find you camped. No permit, either everyone pays on the spot for one or goes home. The funds can be used to clean up this sort of mess, but more importantly it gives a power of in intervention to check and for more serious intervention if there is a large drinking group.

It might seem a lot, but a single annual cost in the order of £50 could help stop a lot of this happening and leave some funds for cleans ups if it does happen.

I love the idea of wild camping and would not be in favour of banning it but there has to be a solution to this problem.

[Elmer J Fudd]

Its not only a Scotland problem. I had a nice bike ride out yesterday and found a nice camp site and good facilities above a sandy beach and in some of the sandy areas of the beach itself, similar debris left by campers.

I think there should be an annual permit required for wild camping in any country. so that police can ask you for it if they find you camped. No permit, either everyone pays on the spot for one or goes home. The funds can be used to clean up this sort of mess, but more importantly it gives a power of in intervention to check and for more serious intervention if there is a large drinking group.

It might seem a lot, but a single annual cost in the order of £50 could help stop a lot of this happening and leave some funds for cleans ups if it does happen.

I love the idea of wild camping and would not be in favour of banning it but there has to be a solution to this problem.

A permit to camp is a terrible idea, you just end up funding a group of neo-Nazi jackbooted and uniformed enforcers (think Edinburgh traffic wardens) who will go around justifying their existence and probably not being around at the right time or be too scared to confront the Nesbit family on tour, so we end up with more restrictions as a reaction. It just won't work. Would I pay £50 if I went wild camping once or twice a year?....nope. Would I pay if I was an idiot who was going to dump my stuff anyway?....nope. The only people who would pay would be the very people who would not be dumping rubbish. Spot the irony.

The real issue is that councils and police aren't funded well enough to investigate these and other rural crimes. This is a societal problem. Societal problems need to be dealt with through general taxation and law enforcement, not by picking on a minority group. We, as bikers, should know the outcome of that approach.

The actions of the dumpers are already illegal, what we need is a coordinated approach to force police and councils to investigate and prosecute. As an example, if each scene was DNA tested and the results compared to the database or then uploaded to the database for future matching to criminals, we would have a chance of catching someone (however slim).

Sorry, I went on a bit......

[boboneleg]

and probably not being around at the right time or be too scared to confront the Nesbit family on tour

[Snaf MKII]

I thought some areas in Scotland already had a permit system, in England there is very little legal wild camping so a permit system would be of little use. There is legislation in place to deal with the idiots that dump kit in the countryside but it's left to the landowner to pursue once the culprits have left the scene.