Advice Needed: IAM or ROSPA ?

bond_yzf · Post by **bond_yzf** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:38 pm

AndyB wrote:
bond_yzf wrote:I attended a Iam meeting in Northants it was like God's waiting room to many old folk for my liking
You'd have upset them big style when you insisted on rolling a smoke before the debrief session after stopping :whistle:

:laugh: I think it was the fact I was on an rc8r with a dinky plate

Africa John · Post by **Africa John** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 4:41 am

JumboSi wrote:As an aside, it is interesting to note the detractors lumping the IAM (just about the largest post DSA training group in the country) and the Freemasons (who donate more to charity per year than any other UK organisation bar the National Lottery) together. Some people just hate to see organisations they chose not to associate with having success or being acknowledged as doing good.

I am not a Freemason but having met many I would happily join them

Having done the training with my local IAM group I would rather stab cocktail sticks in my own eyeballs than pander to their pedantic pathetic rules again

I will happily undertake more training but never again with the IAM. ROSPA or an ex-police rider I would be quite happy with as from others' experience they seem to live in the real world

devon john · Post by **devon john** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:23 am

i would love to take a few of you out and prove that it can be fun and you would come away a better rider.
there are good groups and some not so good .

john with rospa 8yrs riding 45yrs

johnnyboxer · Post by **johnnyboxer** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:33 am

IAM are a strange bunch

It's a strange business model, from a volunteers point of view

You give up your free time & spend your money on petrol & food to take unskilled riders out & teach them all your knowledge of how to ride properly & safely

They... the learners pay the IAM a fee for the training, called Passport & then the test - if they pass they subscribe annually to the IAM cause

However all the money goes to the IAM in London

After running costs etc, each of the directors & employees (75 in the 2013 accounts) derive their income from a business operated by the hardworking 'volunteers' who get nothing for their toil in return (monetarily) - just the camaraderie of the group etc

Great business model - I wish I'd thought of the IAM

Don1960 · Post by **Don1960** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:37 am

Not totally right ... The local group receives £31 of the Skills for Life fee and it is recommended that the observer should receive a "voluntary donation" of £10 from the candidate for each ride they do to to cover expenses, it is up to the observer if they accept it, many don't.

johnnyboxer · Post by **johnnyboxer** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:40 am

Wow £31 & the £10 is a gift from the candidate & nothing to do with the IAM as a company

I stand corrected

The 2013 IAM accounts make interesting reading - all in the public domain

bond_yzf · Post by **bond_yzf** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:41 am

Hmmmm interesting reading

johnnyboxer · Post by **johnnyboxer** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:09 am

bond_yzf wrote:Hmmmm interesting reading

It certainly is (thumbs)

yamahafjr1300! · Post by **yamahafjr1300!** » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:56 pm

Been on a couple of ROSPA rides. Would recommend you go for a ride with them , really enjoyed my sunday rides with them and picked up helpful tips regarding road positioning.