hi thanks i can tell theres a lot of salty old sea dogs aboard here .. ive toured abroad a lot on these bikes ..and afair bit in our vastly underated isle [gb i love u ] each has been a pleasure apart from breakdowns [no i wont forgive u mr bmw ] respect for the hard off roaders and looking forward ...

thanks for the welcome ..and err the question first thing all bikes are all things to different people as a pure road bike ..big tourer which is what they are to me theres not much in it .. the vee has much less weight and is more nimmble but with a more pushy front end .. raising the rear and decen...

seems like a good forum here so i thought id drop in and say hello ive been riding big trailies now for the past 8 years ive done quite a bit off roading but restict the big bikes mostly to tarmack with the odd firetrack now and again to be honest the weight and size of them puts me off doing anythi...